Harley Sawyer vs Alfred Drevis (Poppy Playtime vs Mad Father)
Harley Sawyer, The face of progress
Vs
Alfred Drevis, The face of madness
As the doctors begin their research and the blood of their victims dry, tonight we will figure out who would win… a… uh, “I am currently racing my friend normal at blog making”!!!...
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Before We Start The Blog
So like, these two doctors actually have like a shitton of media surprisingly, so im just gonna scrounge around some blogs and…. Tadaaa! A media list for Sawyer! Which means, the original game (Poppy playtime) maybe the spinoffs for more context (Playtime co) and any ARG we can find for more information on Sawyer himself… this may include the roblox game yes.
As for Alfred, uuuuuuuuhhhhh Checks notes there's the original game, but because the remake is the definitive version we’ll… I’LL focus on that, but there's also a novel, that I like don't have but im sure theres a pirate out there, so if there is then ill use that too
You also may have noticed that this blog isn’t professional which, firstly why do you give a fuck if a blog is “Professional” and secondly it’s because this blog is a joke, made simply for fun so lets delve into Poppy playtime and uh… whatever the fuck mad father is about!
Also this blog is insanely short so keep that in mind, this is a turn of your brain and read type blog for a very specific hyperfixation, this blog as of writing was created in 4.5 days, and we beat normal LETS GOOOOO
Background
Harley Sawyer
“Survival necessitates choices. Difficult choices. This one is yours”
To become successful, you must throw everything away, to become the greatest in your field is to throw it all away, those are the words Doctor Harley Sawyer lived by, a sociopath at birth Sawyer did not care for life, not in the slightest, so he put on a face, and with that face he would catch the attention of the lead scientists at playtime co, Harley sawyer, was set up for GREATNESS
Sawyer would be ignored for most of his life, but as he continued his research, his trek into biology became more and more twisted, and his sense of morality faltered, eventually, he’d come back to Playtime co, and doing so he would eventually force himself into the higher ranks of Playtime, slowly his control would grow over the company, and doing so, he began to continue his research, discovering the bigger bodies initiative Sawyer would use this, and his biology degree to become the head of it, his progress would stop at nothing, and Sawyer believed himself to finally have become the greatest, most important person at playtime…
Until his dreams were destroyed, the bigger bodies initiative was just a money pit, and he was set up, there was no way to make it fully work, despite successes in the past, the monsters were simply too volatile, too dangerous, and much too deadly to be used properly, but Harley refused to give up, he just couldn’t yet, not yet, not ever, but as he became more and more volatile with his emotions, the other members would begin to notice his madness, and they would enact a plan, while keeping Sawyer alive was top priority, that doesn’t mean they couldn’t quell his madness, as he continued to research the monsters he created, Sawyer was “killed” his body split up into tubes, and kept alive through a line of nutrition, Sawyer became…
Inhuman, held together by wires and un-tastable food, and surprisingly… Sawyer didn’t hate this, nor did he fight back, in fact he enjoyed this newfound power. Sawyer would use this to continue research, creating bodies for himself, until his meeting with a certain being, an entity only known as the prototype, Sawyer had created this beast himself, but he did not care for it, but it cared for him, and he would eventually learn of the plan, the “hour of joy” and Sawyer seeing a chance to continue his research would join in, and has the clock would strike for the exact hour, Sawyer would help the toys take over the facility, killing any guest, employee, in their way, Sawyer would however, know about the true intentions of the Prototype, and in a moment, took the orphans deeper into his layer, putting them to sleep, which is what Sawyer thought would be the end of the story, the Prototype enacts its plan, Sawyer is able to keep studying, until 40 years later, an old employee would enter into the facility, medaling with their plans.
Sawyer would watch them destroy his experiments, Experiment 1170, damaged beyond repair, Experiment 1112, killed and then taken by the prototype, and eventually, the Prototypes servant, Experiment 1188, Catnap, the Prototype would take its corpse elsewhere, and then finally, this employee would confront Sawyer himself, using everything at his disposal, Sawyer would try and manipulate them, maybe kill them, use his dog to take them down, but eventually he realized his fate, and would laugh, Survival needs choice afterall, hard choices, and he knew his choice, and eventually, they would reach his brain, take out the card, Sawyer would scream in pain, until his brain was destroyed, and Sawyer, died…
Not peacefully at all, i mean fuck dude that sounded painful as hell bruh.
Alfred Drevis
Once upon a time, in a far off land in Germany, sometime in the year 19## a child was born, his name would be Alfred, Alfred Drevis.
Alfred was no ordinary child, as he grew older tendencies began to show their ugly face, a curse placed onto the Drevis name many moons ago, as he turned 10 he began to experiment, he’d kill small animals, birds, rats, cats, and of course the occasional dog, Alfred would soon come to revel in the way things looked when they died, but as his mother would find out, she’d scold Alfred, and soon he’d come to find his true purpose in killing, as he plunged the knife deep into her stomach, and as she bled out, the beauty of death became clear to him, when you died that perfect face, and body would be instilled in that moment, and Alfred would revel in this discovery, he’d worship it like no other, he’d kill more, and the more he’d kill the better he’d become, eventually Alfred would seize the opportunity and take up biology, becoming a well known doctor, and amassing a wealth like no other.
But all of that would become nothing when he met the love of his life, his wife (yes she doesn’t have a name shut up) but he would soon discover that his wife also believed in his work, using the people he’d kill he would turn them into dolls, perfect porcelain masterpieces their faces forever stuck in state of fear, a face of beauty, until he had his one and only daughter, her name Aya, Aya Drevis, but as time went on Alfred began to notice things, small things Aya exhibited the same emotions he did, she would attack small animals, to try and preserve her deemed beauty, he would get her a rabbit and hope she grew emotionally attached to life, but Alfred couldn’t quell his own emotions, as he took in people to kill, he found someone special, a woman named Maria.
Maria would soon become his favourite subject, he slowly created a perfect environment and he began to love her, she was perfect. She was able to follow directions, and would help him create more and more dolls, until a fateful night, his love for his daughter and wife would blind him to his wife’s, lets say uh, “yandere-esc” emotions, as she would barge into the basement mid surgery, she would come up to Alfred and yell at him for the affair, and the fact that he wished to turn Aya, their pride, into a doll, but before she could react he plunged his chainsaw into her stomach, revving it, slowly pulling away her body slumps, taking advantage of the moment, he captures her beauty into a doll.
Soon, Aya would begin to exhibit the same symptoms, and to protect her beauty Alfred would begin his plan to turn her into a doll, but before he could, something would happen, a curse would awaken, and the Mother would come back as a spirit, causing all the victims of Alfred to rise once more, and begin to attack Aya, her Father, and Maria… Eventually, as all things must, Alfred would be saved by his daughter, but before the mothers spirit vanished, and the curse would end, she would show Aya, Alfred's truth, and his main goal, as he chases her around the mansion one final time, she narrowly escapes him, and eventually finds Maria, after she was attacked by Alfred in a fit of anger, but she couldn’t continue, as Alfred closes in on Aya, she runs into the cathedral, tackled down by a doll, as he raises his chainsaw to finally turn Aya into a beautiful doll, a blade comes flying at him, crashing into his arm and stomach, as he falls down he mutters his last words…
“I love you aya..”
Before dying, a somewhat peacefully, UNTIL MISAO-
Experience & Skill
Harley Sawyer
Harley is certainly no slouch when it comes to skill, in fact, he’s been working at playtime for multiple decades at this point. So he certainly has the skill to understand science, in fact he’s the reason the bigger bodies initiative even exists, so he sure as hell knows his way around biology, but that doesn’t mean anything in a fight if you can't handle one, but luckily for Sawyer, he’s perfectly fit for a fight, Sawyer's been able to hack trains really easily, in fact it only took him mere seconds to notice it, Harley is able to take notes of people and how they act, letting him get a good read on most people who enter his domain, in fact he’s so good at this that he works with the prototype outright, he’s an incredible strategist and comes up with great ways to keep his foes at bay, leaving them, while defended, out of options, hell he’s even made wartime propaganda, so when it comes to planning Sawyer is no slouch.
Alfred Drevis
If there's a method to the madness then we’ll have to figure that out now, Alfred is an absolute beast when it comes to his experience, in fact, he outright remembers and wrote about his birth, which i probably don't need to say how insane that is, regardless Alfred’s been a monster for most of his life, killing animals and of course his own mother as a child, which just goes to show how experienced he is at killing, I mean, he’s directly described to have been “Always experimenting” and every night he was in his basement, its gotten to the point where he’s written about the human anatomy in multiple full length books, which to no ones surprise means he’s basically a genius when it comes to human/animal biology, like when he healed up snowball as good as new in a matter of minutes, but it’s later shown that this isn’t just healing but outright CLONING, that’s right, single handedly Alfred was able to discover cloning, and perfect it to the point of cloning things in literal minutes, even in the way he fights or acts he’s outright described as unpredictable, so it’s safe to say that Alfred is certainly a threat when it comes to Skill.
Equipment
Harley Sawyer
Liquid Nitrogen Gas
Sawyer has shown to use nitrogen gas, specifically to counter doughy snooping around but it's still… liquid nitrogen, so it can freeze you pretty easily, and how easily you may ask? It takes mere seconds to completely freeze you over.
Monitors
Harley has slowly and yet surely, become a master of the playtime co facility, to the point of any monitor not being out of his reach, as he’s able to access basically any one of them, its gotten to the point that Sawyer is basically able to detect you as soon as you come into view of one of them.
Robotic bodies
Ah yes, Sawyers new body, connected to his brain there are maybe hundreds of these guys, as shown above, he can use multiple at a time, and usually uses them to over power and catch people off guard, sawyer usually keeps them offline, of course, until he can catch you off guard, he also often uses them for traps, sandwiching people into impossible situations where there is no winning, he can turn multiple on at a single time if he needs to, seemingly staring into their eyes can just cause death.
Red Smoke
Sawyer has shown to use “red smoke” or poppy gas in the past, so it comes as no surprise as giving him the stuff isn’t that big of an issue, regardless, Red smoke is an incredibly volatile substance, but its main purpose is to cause people to sleep, although that's not all it can do, it can cause your vision to slowly warp and cause you to hear things, most notably whispers, it can get so bad it can create visions of your worst nightmares or traumas, sometimes it can cause side effects like the ones listed here, and remember when i called it volatile? Yeah well it very much is, with enough pressure or even a little spark, boom, making it incredibly difficult to fight against without accidently causing an explosion, and at worst it can even cause you death.
Alfred Drevis
Chainsaw
YOOOO he’s doing the thing! So yeah, this is like Alfred's main form of attacking, through a chainsaw of course! Aya also gets her hands on a chainsaw, so anything that one can do Alfred’s also can, her chainsaw is able to cut up ghosts, and literally kill them…
Syringes
Syringes filled with unknown liquids, Alfred believes them to be able to heal people or make them better, although all they do is kill you, these can also contain something called “Alrune” a plant which if injected and its toxic composition causes sleep… speaking of the alrune
Alrunes
The alrune in alchemy is very similar to something known as a mandrake, basically anyone who happens to hear its scream when uprooted will die, and this isn’t just made up this literally happens, WHY DOES HE HAVE THIS?? It’s also important to note that it killed that zombie dog's soul, so being near this thing when it screams is a very difficult task to survive.
Cloning Machine/DNA Replication
Something strange and brought up before is Alfred’s cloning devices, while we aren’t fully sure on how this works we know that with simple DNA Alfred is able to completely clone a animal or thing, regardless these clones are pretty submissive, as they’ll listen to their owners command, in fact he’s been able to make humans as shown with his wife, while this is simply the doll version he probably can make humans or replicate a human
Abilities
Harley Sawyer
Physiology
As expected Sawyer has a pretty interesting Physiology, Sawyer, is in fact the big brain in a tank somewhere in playtime co’s factory, it’s being kept alive through a nutrient rich network in some undisclosed location, which is probably why he’s so grumpy, hasn’t drank a soda in years… Anyways this neural network is able to connect to any robot clone at his request, and it lets him send them out to attack people, it’s good cover for any medaling chainsaws.
4th wall awareness
Sawyer surprisingly does have 4th wall awareness, in fact it’s one of the weirdest things he does, through some unknown means he was able to hack into the mob games twitter account for the takeover, we can prove that this is the same Sawyer because he outright mentions things only the real sawyer should know, and or be aware of, while this isn’t full on 4th wall awareness he still is aware that he’s in a game of some kind.
And don't worry, I've made sure that Sawyer won't be able to show up during this blog, I'm not THAT unfunny.
Are you sure, about that.?
OH FOR FUCKS SAKE-
Electricity manipulation
Harley has shown the ability to create electrical currents to shock people.
Alfred Drevis
Physiology
Alfred has a pretty insane Physiology, what on the surface is a 40 something year old doctor, underneath is a curse laying in wait, regardless lets start small, he’s able to interact with spirits, intangible beings which literally can become intangible, in fact people have actively shown the ability to sense ghosts while they're invisible, while this is Aya, Alfred should share a physiology with his daughter, which should also allow him to reset his mistakes (See before verdict)
He’s also insanely tough, basically any real damage you do to Alfred never sticks, he’s been stabbed multiple times, and he got up almost good as new, then right after this Robin appears and bashes a pickaxe into the back of his head killing him, once and for all… Oh wait, I lied! Alfried is still able to move after this quite frankly, lethal blow, oh and for those scalpels being thrown into his head he was literally described as unmoving, he WAS dead he just came back, which isn’t too far off, because right after Alfred takes ogres deal he’s fine, he HAS a healing factor of some kind and is able to come back from such a blow, which goes to show how busted Alfred is.
Allies
Harley Sawyer
Rabbids
Not much a surprise, but after the smaller toys began to starve and eat each other, Sawyer took the chance to recruit them, now they basically follow his whim, as he can sick em on people, they don’t really do anything outside of being pests, but the catnap one can produce a small amount of red mist.
Yarnaby
A monster which Sawyer isolated for many years, he slowly became its world, and eventually, it submitted itself to him, abiding his every command, when he calls for the beast it comes to him, and therefore it's no surprise as to why he’s being used here, yarnaby is a noise and sent based creature, it’s practically blind but that doesn’t mean it won't try to find you, it’s ears have become adept enough to hear you running, or even simply using items, but its important to note that yarnaby is extremely flammable.
Baba Chops
One of Harley's bigger experiments was Baba, yes the name is stupid i know, anyways this thing follows Harley similarly to yarnaby, they seem to be able to produce some level of acid as when they hit you acid seems to damage you overtime.
Alfred Drevis
Dolls (See before verdict)
Dolls created by Alfred! There is totally nothing wrong with these aside from the fact that they look human… AND NEVER MIND! These things are crazy! They can cut out lights from candles, can turn completely invisible and hit you down to ground pretty easily, these “dolls” are actually made up of the corpses of Alfred’s victims, these things have the ability to teleport as well, making it incredibly difficult to escape them, they also like piling up to block pathways for… some reason, and when i say theres a lot of dolls i mean it, father has an entire room of theses things, they also often carry a weapon when able, like this doll who carries a knife, these knives are able to even stab souls, killing the soul, however these dolls are weak to fire, when lit on fire their very souls are discarded.
Maria
After Alfred found her and saved her from a life of despair and eventual death, she devoted herself to him, as such she would always be willing to help him, even in the worst of times, she carries knives which she uses as throwing weapons, she should also carry the same weapons as Alfred… minus the chainsaw/dolls.
Feats
Harley Sawyer
Overall
Created the bigger bodies initiative
Successfully kept himself alive for multiple decades
Teamed up with the prototype for full control over the factory
Successfully created an environment to continue experimentation
Socially engineered who knows how many toys into following his command
Coolest/Hottest tv headed villain
Not the tumblr sexyman industry-plant slop that is Vox and Puzzles
Power
Sawyers robots are big (13 Kilojoules)
Alfred Drevis
Overall
Has been killing for like all of his life
Consistently overpowers people with relative ease
Has been able to kill ghosts
Takes a shitton of punishment and is completely fine
Practically perfected cloning
Loves his wife and kids
That’s… probably not a good thing honestly
Power
Was able to break down a metal door and then carry someone with his chainsaw (1240 kilojoules)
His chainsaw should be comparable to Ayas
Alfred's dolls can
Speed
Alfred after revving up his chainsaw moves incredibly fast (fast enough to catch Aya off guard)
Alfred’s dolls can
Durability
Scaling
Harley Sawyer
The Employee
Playtime-co Monsters
(Thanks to the old ass huggy wuggy vs jumbo sauce blog for calcs… and by that I mean singular, this blog links nothing… the people who worked on this are my friends tho so actually they all suck and are garbage losers, you hear that normal, cheese, saul, and the rotting corpse of asura? FUCK YOU)
Note that Sawyer shouldn’t scale speedwise to the cast, Sawyer's robots are incredibly slow and shouldn’t be anywhere near the rest of the cast, he however should physically be stronger than everyone else.
Alfred Drevis
Monsters
The orc breaks these glass tubes, which are able to take damages from Ayas chainsaw
Robin burns down the house (0.97 tons - 4.87 megatons) (See before verdict)
Aya
Aya can react to dolls (1500 ms)... nice one girl lmao, no seriously, this is one of the slowest calculations possible
Weaknesses
Harley Sawyer
Harley has his weaknesses, firstly oh my goodness is he a monologuer, he will monologue and talk and talk until his death, also finding the main computer, or his organs in this case and destroying them or taking the main access chip will kill him permanently, he also has issues with faulty equipment where sometimes booting up a clone will simply break it causing it to be rendered useless.
Alfred Drevis
Alfred despite having multiple ways to come back from death, kill you instantly, or simply over power you has some weaknesses, like fire which if engulfs him will destroy his soul, and as brought up before, despite being a wild card is quick to anger, and has some pretty bad tunnel vision, if you can take advantage of that you can probably get this guy down quickly.
Before the verdict
Harley Sawyer
Nothing notable
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Alfred Drevis
Will the dolls really help em tho
As you’re probably aware of, if you have even the slightest of keen eyes and watched any link or, uh, actually have played mad father, you’re probably wondering why the Dolls are in his equipment, I mean the whole point of the game is that they’re actively trying to kill him right? Well, okay so while true we aren’t talking about THOSE dolls specifically, but rather the smaller ones, who have consistently shown protecting Alfred and helping him, so yeah, he should get those dolls, who actively share a physiology with the ghosts which are trying to kill Alfred, so while yeah the main important ones wouldn’t help him, like miss loops the room to infinity, but the little dolls can still do some damage.
Robin burns down an “entire house”
Yeah okay, this feat… So lets go over this best as possible, firstly the feat itself is pretty concrete, Robin is directly shown creating the flames, in fact we eventually see the outside where it’s implied that the entire building itself is being burned up, so if that's the case then baseline yeah the feat is fine, Robin should sit around .97 tons yes?
WELLLLLLL ok so as you’ve noticed, this feat can also get around to 4.87 MEGATONS and that's only applicable when we understand that Robins goal was to completely destroy the memory of Alfred, it was the mothers WISH to destroy the mansion and everything else surrounding it, in fact he’s so confident in this that it would completely erase the memories of them ever being there, so while strange, the 4.87 megaton feat is completely fine to use…
But is it applicable in any way? Well weirdly enough, yeah it is! Considering that robin was in a weakened state when he did this, as the curse was wearing off and therefore his power to stay alive was as well, we can actually connect these two due to the mother using the last of her power to show Aya her past, which means that even the smallest portion of her curse is what let Robin pull this off, which sounds very similar to something else, that's right, the Drevis curse, which in comparison is much stronger than that of the Mothers curse as the Drevis family curse also encompassed the mothers curse, meaning the thing that kept Alfred alive should be much stronger than a 4.87 megaton feat.
Are Resets canon??
As you probably saw in physiology, a weird thing Aya can do is reset and save, this is worked in through canon by a crow being there and saving the game for you, however, something interesting is that when you make a mistake in game, by reacting quick enough you are simply able to reset from before you made the mistake, what's interesting is that this also applies to mistakes you can simply escape from, like through this door here, what's also weird is, other characters actually do this?
Aya's mother in fact actually sends her back in time to witness her death other spirits can also do this (we also witness Alfred's past through a book), which ties this ability to the spirits (and humans) themselves, so should Alfred be able to replicate this..? Well lets go over an argument against this which will probably be brought up, but Father dies, so why doesn’t he reset from here?
Well simple! His death is caused due to his narrow mindedness, he cannot react in time and therefore CANNOT RESET as proven here, meaning while he can undo mistakes he can’t just spam it and win instantly.
Verdicts
Alright, the Doctors have studied, and the monsters have been let loose
Lets find out who would win, A…
Fuck it whatever
WHO WOULD WIN A SHINANIBLOG
Stats / Allies
Stats are pretty interesting for this debate, but also a very small part of the debate itself, i mean its not something super important, so lets break this down quickly, lets start with the Allies as thats much more interesting (as you’ll come to learn) firstly the Dolls vs Rabbids/Baba, and this is pretty interesting, while neither truly have full on feats, like the Rabbids being able to snap necks and the Dolls doing the same thing, the difference is, the dolls actively carry weaponry and would honestly have a much easier time taking down andy rabbids, and should realistically be able to just stab spears into Baba rendering its acid basically useless, and that goes for basically any other bigger body Sawyer could throw at Alfred, even if he shouldn’t have access to them.
So what about the more important characters, specifically Maria vs Yarnaby, while this one is a little more difficult it’s still more clear cut then you’d think, while Yarnaby would realistically be able to simply swipe Maria’s head off, that doesn’t mean much when her main thing is being stealthy, and id argue she’s much more stealthy then that of our protagonist, and considering her scalpels have been able to not only take down Alfred in worst cases, shes been able to stagger robbin, putting her somewhere in the .97 TONS, comparing Yarnaby to Huggy, considering he should be more durable than Huggy who can take (with a lot of damage) roughly 290 kilojoules, the .97 ton feat is almost 5 MILLION kilojoules, that's 14,428 TIMES STRONGER, than Yarnaby's best, or for a matter of fact, anyone in poppy playtime, meaning all it would really take is a single scalpel and Yarnaby dies.
Things only get worse for the biologist… wait a minute, aren’t these both- Anyways, when we compare the main two, things just become outright worse for Harley, comparing their AP makes this somewhat clear with Sawyer’s body being able to hit with a force of 13 Kilojoules, while that's more than enough to kill a normal person, Alfred is certainly no normal person, Alfred’s chainsaw can exert roughly 1200 Kilojoules I don't think i need to compare here, because that’s pretty obvious, what i’d rather compare is durability vs AP, Sawyer hitting with 13-290 Kilojoules is impressive sure… Now lets compare that to the curse keeping Alfred alive, at roughly 4.87 MEGATONS, and HIGHER, that's not a million times stronger, not ten million times stronger, not even a BILLION times stronger, it’s SEVENTY, BILLION, TIMES STRONGER, and that's a low end for the Drevis curse itself, that just shows how absolutely broken Alfred is, so it’s pretty safe to say that Alfred should clear this category.
Arsenal & Abilities
Things start to get much more Tricky here, as both really have instant win options, so lets do this Peterson vs Michael style and create a chart, of what they both would, and would not live respectively
Harley Sawyer vs Alfred Drevis’s win conditions:
Harley vs Alrunes: Surprisingly, this is one of the main things that Harley should technically live, while obvious that the injected liquid created by the Alrunes will do literally nothing at all, the alive versions are much more insane when compared to the liquid counterpart, but we believe that Harley would technically live this, as due to his robotic body Harley would simply ignore it, and because the screaming isn’t really loud enough to disrupt signals its not shutting off Harley’s brain, or the robots anytime soon, but what it would do is literally KILL EVERYONE, that’s right, this little thing would bomb everyone and everything the frame it’s pulled out, it specifically destroys the doll souls, and the rabbids would be close behind, then both Marina, Yarnaby, and Baba would all fall down dead, infact it would also kill Alfred for a couple seconds, until the curse kicks in to bring him back up, so it’s safe to say that Harley should live this
Harley vs Soul destruction: Simply put, this doesn’t really do anything, as explained before the Robots themselves don’t actually have souls, and rather the brain does, maybe you could argue that the consciousness tied to the robots would let Alfred simply kill Sawyer, but nothing is stopping him from just, swapping bodies, and being completely fine, so while this seems like the death of Harley, it doesn’t really mean anything, although the Chainsaw itself would simply saw through any and all bodies that Harley throws at Alfred.
Harley vs Robot death: As Occam's razor predicts, the best outcome is usually the easiest, all Alfred would really need to do is hack and slash through all of Harley’s bodies and bam, he’s completely incapacitated, and there's not really anything he can do about this, however it's unlikely that Harley has every robot in a single room, he’s a war strategist afterall, and it would be more likely that there are other robots around elsewhere that he can control easily…
Alfred Drevis vs Harley Sawyer’s win conditions:
Alfred vs Death hax: Welllll, okay this ones a little complicated so lets go through this, firstly the likelihood of this even being pulled of is incredibly unlikely, y’know due to the 70 BILLION POWER GAP so its more likely that Alfred just blasts out of any cornering Sawyer can do, however, let’s say, for the fun of it Alfred is caught in the gaze of one of the robots, firstly, because the death hax usually take a couple seconds to actually affect you, Alfred should be able to react in time, to reset before his death and now he knows what the robots can do, and can warn the others about the robots and how they work, now lets say he does get it off, and Alfred just can't react in time, well Alfred falls to the floor, dies, and… Immediately gets back up, due to the Drevis curse, and Alfred's will, Alfred will basically always just get back up after every single death thrown at him, so it’s unlikely that slow death hax would actually kill Alfred for good, and even if they did, well… He just gets back up good as new
Alfred vs Red Smoke: While usually this would certainly lead to the death of any biological person, things slightly change when it comes to Alfred, firstly, uh, Red smoke is incredibly volatile, and will explode at even the smallest spark, Alfred, carries around a massive chainsaw, which in this fight he’s going to be slamming into giant metal robots, creating sparks… so uh yeah, the entire playtime co factory explodes, and everyone dies, including the prototype, but because of the curse, Alfred just gets back up and continues on his way, but lets say for some reason Alfred doesn’t have his chainsaw on him, and he’s unable to escape the very, very slow moving red smoke, and his resetting doesn’t work for whatever reason, well, actually, he’d die!... And to no one’s shock he gets back up again, so uh yeah, basically the Drevis curse would keep Alfred awake, and considering others, like our protagonist have lived inside the red smoke, only experiencing hallucinations, Alfred, who should be much more fortified than the Employee would be fine just getting up and continuing the fight, however, because the smoke causes hallucinations, it’s likely that Alfred would see his dead wife everywhere, too bad he literally would not care, and would probably just go kill her again anyways, even if it was his teammates, it doesn’t matter.
Alfred vs Liquid Nitrogen: This is pretty weird but its actually pretty realistic that this just instantly takes down Alfred, because it doesn’t actually kill Alfred its unlikely that the curse would activate to bring Alfred back, and because its not a life or death situation, and Alfred could technically come back from being freezing its not likely that his reset factor would work either, so weirdly enough yeah this is a surefire win condition.
So through all of that who should get the point? Well lets go through this, both are completely fine with each other's real effects, both survive 2 wincons and lose to one, so well, they should tie here, meaning that this category is a tie, meaning the determining factor, surprisingly is..
Tertiary Factors
This is just going to go over very basic stuff, but a lot of it is very important, lets start with stamina, while it may seem obvious, i mean a robot doesn’t have stamina, it's not like Alfred is going to be out of breath anytime soon, i mean he was literally brought to another dimension and tortured and that guy wasn’t out of breath, so fighting for a prolonged time isn’t likely to take him down, or down for good, now lets get into the meat of this, starting with IQ, it's no surprise that Alfred is probably smarter than Sawyer, like remembering your birth, then remembering it long enough to fully write about it in detail is simply better than anything that Sawyer has shown, even still Sawyer required help and needed others to create the bigger bodies initiative, while Alfred could create his dolls with barely any experience, however the same cannot be said for their battle smarts, again another non shocking win for Sawyer, Sawyer has who knows how long of experience because well, he was the mind behind a war for multiple years and he’s been fighting in said war, he’s a master strategist so, no surprise here he takes that, so what about special categories tailored to them? Well manipulative wise Sawyer is outright better, Sawyers able to understand even slight facial movements as to what a person is thinking, and he does this more than once and is always right, he’s emotionally and socially engineered hundreds of children, and then Yarnaby into following his every word, so while Sawyer takes that, he lacks, Unpredictability, while a weakness it's also Alfred's greatest advantage, Sawyer's experience means nothing if he simply cannot figure out the method to Alfred's madness, and he really can't, Alfred was called unpredictable by another master strategist so Sawyer finding a method is also very unlikely…
Harley Sawyer
"Come now, let’s see which of us beasts of burden destiny favors, hm?"
Advantages:
Ignores basically all wincons alfred could pull
Ignores soul destruction due to not really technically having a soul
Technically has more win cons…
More versatile
More experienced in fights like this
Bigger numbers
Yarnaby could technically scale to the huggy blitzing feat…
Poppy playtime is a great series, i quite enjoy it
Disadvantages:
70 BILLION TIMES WEAKER.
His entire army is thousands of times weaker than even the weakest doll Alfred has.
…One of them if used wrong would literally blow up all of playtime and kill him anyways
No real way to put Alfred down for good
Not nearly as smart as Alfred
Would probably lose if the fight dragged on
… Yarnaby has literally never shown this level of speed, ever, and even if it did Yarnaby is still unable to kill… like anyone anyways
While I think he’s cooler than the tumblr industry slop that is Puzzles and Vox, could you guys really not add anything else to his design????
Alfred Drevis
"Indeed, the mistress is just like you… It does indeed run in the family… Doctor"
Advantages:
Stats, I don't need to explain
Marina keeps Sawyers bigger allies down
Unpredictably means that Alfred would always have an advantage
More potent equipment…
Could force a 1v1 if needed
Could simply come back from literally any wincon Sawyer had
Generally smarter…
Mad father is a really good series
Disadvantages:
If frozen would lose
Is very likely to just start killing his own allies
Not nearly as much of a strategist
…Not like it would kill sawyer
Would like, die a lot though
Unlikely to come up with a permanent way to actually kill sawyer
…being smart doesn’t really do anything?
Couldn’t think of a funny disadvantage.. yes the pedofile joke is low hanging fruit, also it isn’t funny.
WHY DID YOU BECOME A BIOLOGIST?
“BECAUSE I LIKE-“
And so after all that…
The winner….
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Hmm, that's weird, and hasn’t really happened before, how strange? Well lets run it down, firstly, neither had a real option to take the other down fully, Sawyer should be able to freeze Alfred maybe, but there's no real way for us to prove that Alfred is dumb enough to get caught by the stuff, despite his insanity he’s still incredibly smart, and still has been killing for almost 30+ years, and has been a scientist for the last 20, so there's no real point in actually arguing that.
And while maybe Alfred could destroy all of the Sawyer robots, Sawyer could probably talk Alfred down, which YEAH that's the final condition here, an integral part to both characters is that they like their jobs, and they like experimentation a LOT, as Alfred did with Marina “It would be a waste to lose you” probably rings true here, both would realistically after awhile get the gist of how this is going to go, Sawyer tries to kill Alfred, Alfred comes back, Sawyer tries to gas Alfred, Alfred comes back, etc etc.
See both of these scientists are open to others coming in and helping them with their work, while there is certainly an ego problem, Sawyer has shown in the past working with people in a positive way, the most notably being the Prototype, the Prototype gives Sawyer some kids for experimentation and Sawyer gives the prototype more toys or smtn, we don't actually know the details yet, regardless, something like that could realistically come to fruition through this fight, and it’s just flat out what the characters would do, so..
Final Tally
Total Experimentation
(2)
The winner is Harley Sawyer, AND, Alfred Dervis.
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